A frustrated LBC caller, introduced as Simon, grilled Jeremy Hunt and demanded he gives a definitive answer on Northern Ireland checks, as he had heard different answers from different Tory MPs. Mr Hunt began his response to the question but was interrupted by the caller who concluded the language the former Health Secretary was using was not helpful and avoided clarity. Mr Hunt appeared frustrated as he begged the caller to let him answer and allow him to be truthful with this response.

The caller Simon said: “I did ask about the customs declaration for Northern Ireland and I think this is where the confusion is.

“Stephen Barclay said that there wouldn’t be any customs declarations and then later had to correct himself and say there would be.

“Boris Johnson was caught on video that he was Prime Minister and there wouldn’t be.

“Kwasi Kwarteng said at the weekend that he doesn’t believe there will be.

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“Could you clarify: Are they going to be doing customs declarations with the mainland? Sammy Wilson at the moment is saying that this deal is a breach of the government’s commitment to allow Northern Ireland unfettered access with the mainland.

“So, are there declarations or are there not?”

Mr Hunt began his reply by saying, “as I understand it, I haven’t been involved in the detail of this”, before the caller interrupted him.

The caller cut him off and said: “Jeremy this is the deal because I want to vote with confidence so as I understand it isn’t really helping me at this stage.

“Kwasi Kwarteng has used those same words, can you not just tell me because it is important to a lot of us.”

Mr Hunt retorted: “Well I am being truthful Simon, I haven’t been involved in the details of this and I think you just want me to tell you what I think is going to be the case.

“This is what I was about to do.”

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The caller snapped: “Well, I just want a definitive answer, but you can’t provide that.”

Mr Hunt sharply replied: “Will you let me answer it, Simon, let me try and answer it anyway, is that okay?

“I think there will be some additional bureaucracy which I hope will be very minimal because It can be done electronically for goods flowing between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.

“I hope it will be invisible but I think there will be some additional bureaucracy that has to happen.”

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